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NOTES FROM EIS SCOPING MEETING held on June 29, 2004
This memo generally summarizes the Ala Wai Canal Project
(AWCP) Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) Scoping Meeting held on Tuesday, June
29th at
Members of the project team gave a slide show
presentation on the general nature of the AWCP as well as on the flood damage
reduction and ecosystem restoration concepts they are considering. Additionally, the EIS process and public
comment opportunities were described.
After the presentation, meeting participants were asked to provide their
comments on the project. Verbal comments
were as follows:
Renwick “Uncle Joe” Tassill – Concerned Citizen, Ala Wai
Watershed Association (AWWA), Tour Industry (leads
ahupua˙a system discussion at
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If
we are designing for the 100-year storm, where are we in that 100-year
cycle? What is the relationship of the
timing of this project with the expected occurrence of the storm? Are there weather patterns/studies to figure
this?
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A:
The term 100-year storm refers to the statistical probability that a storm of
this magnitude will occur once every 100 years.
This does not mean that it will only happen once every 100 years. There is a 1% chance that this large of an
event will happen in any given year. The
term 25- or 100-year storm also means the magnitude of the storm.
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This
project should be taken down to the children because it will affect them, too.
Raymond Gruntz – Safety Chair, Waikļkļ
Neighborhood Board
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How
far up the Canal does the salt water travel and mix
with the fresh water?
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A:
During high tide, the salt water can go as high as
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If
you flood the golf course, will the salt water kill the grass?
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A: No, because the diversion to the golf course will be
located upstream, above the tidal influence, putting only fresh water onto the
course.
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The
project team is invited to the Waikļkļ Neighborhood Board to speak about the
project.
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Remembers
the 1965 flood and how it flooded Ala Wai Elementary. Does not want children to
have to experience the flooding that happened in the past.
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This
project should have been coordinated with the dredging project last year.
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Wondered
why flooding of Hausten Ditch and other streams has not been addressed, and recommended
a cross-circulation idea for the Canal to the Corps but did not see that in the
presentation.
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Project
should also improve circulation in the streams, including Hausten Ditch.
Bill Tom – Marine Consultant
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Damming
of streams not the answer, removal of trash is the answer. Need to concentrate on trash and sediment
upstream, which will reduce pressure on the
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In
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Experienced a 100yr flood in
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We
should all be concerned with the 100-year flood and come together to clean the
streams.
Lance Grolla – former City Planner
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Based
on his work experience, he thinks that 30 and 60-day review periods were not
long enough. It takes time for people to write, also time to review. Extensions should be given so the community
can adequately respond to the project.
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Create
terraced channels/Canals in the upper watershed to catch water. There were terraced taro patches in Hawaiian
history.
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Plant
the terraces.
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Catch
rainwater by draining water directly down into the aquifer (a system used in
He
complimented the panel on the presentation.
(Tsuchida
noted that there may be a problem with runoff from
neighborhoods; they may contain contaminants that we do not want to get into
the ground water. Lance
replied yes, would have to use something like charcoal.)
Steve Kubota – Ahupua˙a Action Alliance, AWWA, worked on Kaneohe-Kahaluu
Stream Restoration and Maintenace Guidebook
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Make
ahupua˙a the knowledge base for designing restoration. William Kikuchi of
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Recreate
landscapes. The National Research
Council developed a manual: Restoration of Aquatic Ecosystems, in 1992. It is a formal process that the Federal
government is trying to develop. It
advocates using historical records, oral histories, GIS, and other tools as a
guide for restoration. There is also extensive
literature on the subject at the UH libraries.
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Need
to look at history past the construction of the
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Rainwater
catchment would cool water and address the bacteria problems.
Yoshimi Endo - Retired
He lived
in the Moiliili Quarry area from 1963 to 1971. Flood waters covered the entire lower campus
of UH.
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Tourism
is the #1 economy; opposes dikes or barriers that tourists could see.
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He
complimented the panel and had the following thoughts and concerns:
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Damage
estimates are rather low. Loss of business
costs, etc., need to be included in the estimates.
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The
flood is a community problem. It is not
just a Waikļkļ problem but it affects residents of McCully, Kaimukļ, and all
surrounding areas.
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Building
walls and widening the Canal should be the last resort. It would negatively impact
the community. The panel needs to look
at every other option before doing that.
Dredging helps and it is preferred to building walls and widening the
Canal.
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Create
another method for water to move from the Canal to the ocean, such as a
drainage system to flush at Kapahulu end to increase capacity. This would be preferable to walls and/or
widening.
(Chow’s
response was that we will try to avoid building walls but the situation must be
evaluated. The original study in 2001
focused on just dredging or just walls and it determined that flood walls alone would need to be 10 to 13 feet high. However, the purpose of the study was to
identify engineering solutions toward getting the Corps involved in the
project. The best solution is a
combination of all concepts because it would minimize the impacts of each
individual action.)
Alan Ewell
-
Tantalus Association
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Restoration
and flooding are integrated and should not be looked at as separate. Start at the top of the watershed and work
down to prevent flood water from even reaching the
Canal. There are lots of other options
than what has been presented, e.g., green roofs, wetlands throughout the
watershed, rainwater catchment for commercial and residential areas. Are these being considered?
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A:
Tsuchida explained that we are looking at concepts such as catchment and
wetlands, but we need to determine how much effort is needed to gain any
measurable benefit. Chow stated that the
Federal Government can’t solve everything, but wants
to help jump start the community.
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Economic,
recreational development should all be considered at this stage. Previous proposals included using the Canal
for commercial ferries and turning the golf course into a park, which would
include wetlands. This team should
coordinate with the appropriate State and City agencies to ensure that this
project fits into their overall economic development plans for the area.
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A:
Tsuchida explained that we are not considering redesigning the golf course for
a park but we are looking at it as a storm water retention
basin. We will coordinate with
the appropriate agencies to ensure that this project does not conflict with
future planned uses.
David Ogura – private citizen
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Provide
a path or pipe on the
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Consider draining out of both sides. The Canal can be made such that it will only
be used in case of a flood.
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Widen
and deepen stream beds to settle out sediments before they get to the
Canal. Disposal of sediment will then be
easier because it is not contaminated by salt water.
He lives
on the Windward side and is experiencing sediment problems in the stream near
his home. He has found that the permits
and approvals process is time-consuming and suggested that the process should
be streamlined. He indicated his
frustration and said that while awaiting permits, approvals, and cleaning of
the stream, the streambed near his home erodes and continues to get wider.
Patrick Chun – Ala Wai business owner
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Mr.
Chun asked why the
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A:
Frankly, they ran out of funding.
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Further,
besides dredging deeper, what are the benefits of lining with concrete to
convey water faster?
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A:
Chow said we are trying to make the project area more natural; however, we
cannot get more conveyance through the Canal by just dredging. We want to minimize the use of more concrete.
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Mr.
Chun also noted that in keeping things natural, unless the streams and
plantings are maintained properly, they may add to debris
that clogs the stream and Canal.
The
stream in the Canal has never been dredged to its original depth. Can take core samples to tell what the
original depth was. He noted that it is
a Canal, not a stream, and by definition, it will never flow down hill, though
at the onset, the Kapahulu end was higher.
Most of
the sediment comes from the upper watershed.
Fifty percent of the sediment load of Pälolo and Mänoa comes from above Waiakeakua.
The Canal is a sediment trap; it is
perfectly designed. Eighty percent of
the sediment comes from the Conservation District; therefore, he believes that
anything that is done toward abatement of the problem in the urbanized areas
will have no impact on the sedimentation.
Nature used to have sediment traps in the upper watershed.
(Chow’s
response was that we are looking at the upper watershed system to reduce the amount
of sediment and contaminants.
Bourke
stated that we need to balance the project such that sediment traps can be put
in the upper watershed; we are trying to reinvent ways to capture sediment in
the upper areas without negatively impacting the
aquatic biology. This may include check
dams, but anything bigger runs into hydraulic problems.)
Michael Cain – private citizen; SSRI
Environmental Planner
Mr. Cain
asked if the bike path in the diagram is an element being considered.
(Tsuchida
responded that we would like to improve access on public lands where it is
feasible.)
Lauren Roth –private citizen; also with UH Manoa
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Clean
the pollution coming down into the Canal.
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Need
to consciously build settling ponds and constructed
wetlands for sediment and remediation issues, so that functional guardians are
addressed, not just “restoration”.
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Need
native plants, wetlands features, widening of the banks, gardens that have
purpose.
Ms. Cypher needed contact numbers in regard to suspicious substances
in the Canal.
Mr. Takayesu provided numbers for the City Environmental
Concern Line – 692-5656 and for the State Department of Health Clean Water
Branch – 586-4309.
Mr.
Durkin is doing work in the Ala Wai watershed; he is looking at restoration and
“natural engineering.”
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Restore
water quality integrating modern engineering with ancient Hawaiian practices
and natural engineering. This technology
exists, and need to incorporate this.
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Maintain the nutrient balance.
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Control
the volume of water in the streams. The
goal is to have more water in the streams on a daily basis and control water on
a flooding basis.
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Plan
for water re-use. We need to reduce
water demand so we can get more water in the stream for native species.
He
offered his project for those interested in participating – the Makiki
Ecological Demonstration at the
Sally Moses
We need
to be concerned about our environment; we need to do what is pono. Ms. Moses lives in the uplands of Makiki and
has seen the water in the stream go down to nothing in a 6-year period.
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A
dry stream is a dangerous stream and will cause damage once a storm hits. Becomes overgrown with
weeds.
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Get
the charter and DOE schools involved in the project; turn this into a
curriculum-based program; get the youth involved.
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Take
care of the land, there is no other place to go.
Lionel Aono – Chair of Board of Public Golf
Courses
There
will be problems in using the golf course for drainage retention. After the water is drained, there will be a
lot of silt and that will kill the grass for at least a year. The aftermath
will result in a bad smell, muck, debris, and health problems. He noted that the
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Get
the water out into the ocean. Storing
the water on land will damage the environment.
(Tsuchida
responded saying that we will look at those impacts over the next few months.)
Jim Harwood – Mänoa N.B.; AWWA
We need
to consider the impacts of rain, wind, hurricane, and tsunami. The walls will hold tsunami back and keep the
Canal from draining.
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Consider
how this project will impact the area under these scenarios.
Unnamed female
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Do
not widen the Canal due to recreational impacts. Prefer deepening. The Canal was dredged in 2003; the previous dredging
was in 1973. Once in thirty years is not
enough.
Wenhao Sun – former UH Researcher, now with private company that is
currently involved with the Ala Wai
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Consider
phyto-remediation.
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Follow
the ahupua˙a concept; restore the back yard.
The plant component, e.g., taro, provides lots of
functions – takes up nutrients and sedimentation, preventing upstream water
from flooding down stream.
Mr. Sun
heard a story about the Ala Wai of 20 years ago. It was very clean, marsh land with sea grass
and people were able to swim in it.
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Work
with nature.
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Create a sustainable system.
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Introduce
plants. Introduce sea grass under stream
then turn nutrients from pollutants/waste to food for plants; first need to clean
up the algae from the water and then introduce the sea grass and establish the
system.
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Grow
native plants on a floating platform.
Mälama o
Mänoa cleans a section of the Mänoa Stream and worked under the Kuleana Project
last year. Ms. Nakano is able to get the
necessary volunteers and would like help from the government in finding a way
to make it easier to adopt stream sections for volunteer groups. Has been trying to do this for the last five
years but needs help in cutting the red tape.
Ray Pendleton – recreational boating
Mr.
Pendleton reminded the panel that there is a multi-million dollar marina at the
end of the
Ms. Ah
Mai cited the importance of Mr. Yoshimi Endo’s statements regarding the UH
Quarry and
She
talked of Ho˙omaluhia where a huge berm was
built. As a result, in the 1965 flood,
the Känewai area people had to climb out of their windows.
For
emergency storage areas, consider places like the UH quarry, soccer fields,
etc.; look at that type of large diversion.
If bermed properly, this area could serve as a
detention basin, and concerns of this area being flooded are not as high as
other areas.
John Wilbur – citizen / paddler
Mr.
Wilbur noted that a complete archaeology history of the watershed has not been
done.
Regarding
chemicals in
He felt
that this project is a step toward improvement and he appreciates it.
(Tsuchida
responded that archaeological and cultural resources studies are currently
being done. In regards to the Clean
Water Act, while this project cannot solve all of the water quality issues for
the state or for this area, we are working to do what we can so together, with
other groups and agencies, we can work toward that
goal)
Robert Rodman –
Mr.
Rodman stated that several years ago he wrote to the Department of Land and
Natural Resources in regard to flushing fresh water
from the Kapahulu groin. In his plan, a
one-way valve would flush water into the Canal twice a day with the tides. This could be done without the use of pumps
24 hours a day. The process is to drain
out the Canal and bring fresh sea water in.
It is a global solution.
There
are a large number of pigs in upper
He is
trying to get a grant to automate the cleaning of the debris trap under
bridges. The area was not dredged and
there is still a lot of sediment under there.
If there is a flood, the flood waters would go over the bridge. He further noted that there are large
blockages in the Canal.
Lance Grolla
The
promenade is the most beautiful, supreme place.
He questioned why we would plan to remove 20 feet of it and endanger the
root system of the trees. He thinks it
would be better to widen the Canal on the Waikļkļ side instead.
(Chow
responded that there are roadways and utilities involved across the Canal. The promenade side was proposed because of
the ease in getting equipment in there and the lesser impacts on utilities.)
Ms.
Petra cited the beauty of the
Edgar Akina – from Kalihi
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Finish
the Canal on the
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Do
bio-remediation.
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Increase
storm water capacity and get all issues addressed before proceeding with
dredging. This project should have been
coordinate with the previous dredging.
Mr. Akina stated that it was promised that the dredge material
would be taken out to the ocean. He saw
the barge; it was tilted and the sediment was spilling into the ocean, all the
way to the disposal site. We need a new
concept other than ocean disposal; we cannot take pollution from one area and
take/spread it to another area.
He feels
that we need to lessen the impact to Waikļkļ but noted that flooding will still
happen, there will still be damage. He
questioned if it is worth all of this.
In
regard to environmental justice, with a 100-year flood, all islands will be
affected. He therefore feels that the
flood problems should be addressed throughout all of the islands.
Michelle Matson –
Ms.
Matson noted we need to be aware of historic elements of the
On the
east side, there is still part of a drainage area that feeds into
Jackie Miller – UH Environmental Center
Ms.
Miller asked if the study of the boundaries of the 100-year flood is close to
reality at this stage?
(Chow
responded that previously, a traditional Corps model was used; they are now
using numeric models that provide more exact data. The boundaries are expected to be the same
with the new model, but the flood depths will be more accurate.)
Steven Kubota
He feels
that we need to develop material for teachers to use in the classrooms. In regard to environmental justice, he noted
that there is a high population of low-income and Asian and Pacific Islanders
in the affected area. Fifty percent of
the students are from non-English speaking homes. Many residents are first generation families
where children are the translators to their parents. Need to remember that not
everyone speaks English.
Yoshimi Endo
Makiki
Stream runs below the H-1 Freeway and with a large flood, it will break through
and create impassable conditions. The
area between Roosevelt and Stevenson schools will need a bridge.
Ron Lockwood – McCully/Mö˙ili˙ili
Neighborhood Board
In
regard to Environmental Justice, there are 16 different ethnic groups in the
public schools in his area. Fifty to 70
percent of the students are on the reduced lunch program.
About a
year ago their Neighborhood Board set the
Once
everyone had an opportunity to speak,